Trump’s Claims on 2020 Election Integrity Under Scrutiny in Recent Joe Rogan Interview

Austin, Texas – Donald Trump’s Recent Claims on Election Integrity

On October 25, 2024, former President Donald Trump participated in a lengthy interview with popular podcaster Joe Rogan. The discussion, which lasted nearly three hours, centered on Trump’s ongoing claims regarding the 2020 presidential election. These statements have drawn considerable attention, particularly given the timing, as Trump shared them while facing allegations and legal challenges concerning the upcoming 2024 election.

Trump’s Claims About His 2020 Loss

During the interview, Trump maintained that he did not lose the 2020 election to Democrat Joe Biden. He stated, “I won by like—they say I lost by like—I didn’t lose.” This assertion is misleading. In reality, Trump lost the election, and multiple investigations consistently reaffirmed that there was no substantial evidence of widespread fraud that affected the election’s outcome. Trump’s former attorney general publicly stated there were no significant fraud indicators, and investigations in key states like Michigan and Wisconsin also concluded similarly.

Trump did, however, lose narrowly in several swing states. If approximately 81,000 votes had flipped in states like Arizona and Georgia, he could have won the presidency through the Electoral College, yet he inaccurately claimed a necessary margin of 22,000 votes.

Legal Challenges and Court Rulings

Another point of contention during the interview was Trump’s belief that judges were unwilling to consider his cases. He claimed, “What happened is judges don’t want to touch it. They would say, ‘you don’t have standing.’ They didn’t rule on the merits.” This statement is also inaccurate. Trump and his team lost over 50 lawsuits regarding the 2020 election, with many court decisions ruling against them based on the merits of the case.

A detailed analysis from a group tied to Republican lawyers found that while 20 lawsuits were indeed dismissed without a hearing, 30 were ruled against after hearings on their merits, and 14 cases were dropped before the court could assess their validity. This paints a different picture than the one Trump presented.

Discussion of Voting Methods

Trump and Rogan further discussed voting methods, advocating for a return to paper ballots. Trump pointed to Elon Musk’s support for this idea, yet it is important to note that over 90% of U.S. election jurisdictions already used paper ballots in the 2020 election. Additionally, the federal Election Assistance Commission later recommended that all jurisdictions employ paper-based voting systems.

Claims of COVID-19 Influence on Voting

Trump also argued that the COVID-19 pandemic was used as an opportunity to cheat in the election, claiming that changes in voting procedures were designed to favor Democrats. This is misleading. In March 2020, as the pandemic unfolded, both Republican and Democratic election officials encouraged mail-in voting to ensure public safety, a decision that had broad support at the time.

Trump’s narrative linking mail-in voting to fraud mirrors sentiments he expressed in previous elections, claiming any loss was marred by illegitimate votes. Fewer than 475 instances of voter fraud were found across the six battleground states Trump lost, a number far too small to impact a national election significantly.

Conclusion

As the 2024 presidential election approaches, Trump’s continued assertions about the 2020 election remain a focal point. His claims have been consistently challenged and refuted, yet they resonate with a segment of the population that remains skeptical of the integrity of U.S. elections. As the political landscape evolves, the debate over voting practices and election legitimacy is likely to remain contentious.